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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 15:47:09 GMT -5
Well, you know why the only reason this is such a big deal in the government. It's becasue you get big tax breaks and have all the benifits marriage offers. Such as allowing to make decisions for your lover when they're in the hispital, or being able to control anything that goes on in your partner's life.
I know that I'm forced to ride a christian bus to school every day b/c of my lack of money and the College's agreement with the cristian school and if you even mention gay relationships, they jump on you, trying to convert you or 'save you'.
Maybe it's just b/c, like I said, I'm opinionated. *sigh* People all can have their own beliefs and I don't hold anything against people who don't believe in gay relationships, I just wish they wouldn't hold things against them.
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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 15:48:17 GMT -5
Ahm.
12 reasons why gay people should not be allowed to get married 1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid becasue they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire counrty. That's why we have only one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
10. Children can never suceed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "seperate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Seperate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as seperate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
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Post by requiem on Mar 17, 2004 16:01:20 GMT -5
Christians don't force marriage/hetrosexuality on you... why do you think there are gay priests? I used to be a catholic.... the church isn't as bad as you think - honestly! But the bible was written long ago, when men got money for their daughters. But we live in a civilised society where we marry because we love. The bible is a guideline, at any rate. okay, I am so going to take you on on this. You say you're Catholic? Do you accept all of Catholicism's beliefs, or just the ones that make sense? I'm far from Catholic. Hell, I don't have a denomination. But I believe every word of the Bible, even those condemning gays. (Believe me, read the books of the Law. There's way more in there condemning fornication and the such. We don't attack gays.) Do you then believe in the Revelation? Or the Gospels? I don't think there's any way for you to day you believe SOME of what the Bible has to say. And you say that NOW we marry for love? Read through the Bible. Some of the greatest romances are in there. Not to mention the Sacred Romance, that between you and God. And gay preists? That just irks me. Between the molestation cases and gay clergy, I don't know what's happening to the church these days. I've just lost any validity I had, haven't I?
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Post by DarkAnima on Mar 18, 2004 6:16:33 GMT -5
requiem... if you had read what i wrote... I USED to be catholic. I don't like gay priests either, but the fact is I do beleive there is a god... But that's side-tracking. by the way, you haven't lost any validity... whatever you meant by that.
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Post by Marty on Mar 18, 2004 10:28:25 GMT -5
It's just the soceity we live in. People cannot accept change. Or they do not easily, rather. A real life example is ROTC, or even the boy scouts. Gays are NOT allowed to participate in any of these activities. When I joing ROTC at OWCC, I had to sign a paper that said that I was not gay, and could not participate in any 'gay' activities while in ROTC.
If that isn't society discriminating against gays, what is that? That was like when women couldn't join the army, or when blacks couldn't vote.
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Post by Kingleby on Mar 19, 2004 18:48:30 GMT -5
man thats so stupid. being against gays from what i;ve seen is like being racist at my school. but thats just my experience so no offence intended by that.
but what you said about gay being illegal like divorces? totally agree with that. Divorces are needed in some cases belive me. i have prayed for years for my parents to get one and stop screwing up my sisters and my heads with their screwing (literally in some cases) about.
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Post by Marty on Mar 25, 2004 16:23:05 GMT -5
yeah. its pretty bad.
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Post by Marty on Oct 20, 2004 13:09:33 GMT -5
Heh. I just read over what we wrote 6 months ago and none it makes sense b/c SOMEONE deleted their posts I don't think this'll make any sense to brits ( sorry kath ^_^), but did any of y'all watch the vice-presidential debates, or rather the SNL parody of the debates? I think that Edwards overstepped a few bounderies, trying to keep on Kerry's "W's not being straight with Americans." I wanted to kick him *real* hard.
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Post by Kingleby on Oct 25, 2004 10:39:35 GMT -5
lol, your right, doesn't make any send to me.
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Post by Kuja on Oct 28, 2004 14:07:18 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]I think people should just be themselves, whether thay're gay or straight. Hell, I've got almost as many gay friends as I do straight! And we all get along fine! What the hell, man?! [/shadow]
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