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Post by Marty on Mar 16, 2004 14:33:08 GMT -5
Jut a question. Do I offend anybody? Seriously? Becasue if I get one more rude comment about my suppor of gay rights, or my harsh, but true, out look on life, I'm gonna commit homocide.
I believ every one is entitled to their opinions, and it makes my blood boil to listen to someone talking about gay people like they were dirt. I pride myself in what I feel is an unbaised look at the issue, as I am straight, and cannot see what people see wrong with this. Besides that it's against the Bible. That, to me, is NOT a valid reason.
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Post by Marty on Mar 16, 2004 15:00:16 GMT -5
HA! Just to spite you homophobes!  |
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Post by requiem on Mar 16, 2004 15:07:32 GMT -5
*shivers* you know, I liked all of them five minutes ago. Stupid kiwis have corrupted them.
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Post by Marty on Mar 16, 2004 15:17:48 GMT -5
lol. its all in good fun. i hope. i mean, i'm all supportive of gay rights, but if viggo and or orlando were gay, i might have issues to sort out!
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Post by requiem on Mar 16, 2004 17:34:30 GMT -5
yeah...but all jokes aside, this is a really hot issue right now. Don't know what the situation is in Britain, but this is what's happening right now in the US, and what really gets me.
So a few months ago Dubya passes the marriage act, right? Basically RESTATES what the Constitution says- marriage is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT, given to a heterosexual couple. Immediately, people start to slander Bush for this and try to fight the Act (the latter I'm okay with- fifth amendment. I do beleive in free speech). This is all okay, right? Then things get hairy in the judical system.
Basically, there are these three branches of law, two of them being the Judiciary, which..well, deals with enforcing laws, and then there's the Legislature, which writes and passes laws.
What's ILLEGAL, but still happening, is that the Judiciary branch is overstepping their boundries and WRITING laws. This is what happened in Mass., California, Vermnont, etc. So basically they're performing gay marriages. Which is illegal.
The thing is, gay marriage was never legal. States gave out 'Civil Unions' which meant that gay couples got some [but not all] of marriage benefits. No Republican president will ever issue a law legalizing gay marriage. So in order to sustain that this thing would stay in affect, Dubya passed the law. And that's basically the cold, hard poitical thing.
I'm not going to say you're completely insane, Kingleby, to say that Homosexual Marriage is okay because the Bible doesn't matter. You're entitiled to an opinion as much as I am. I'm a white, conservative Southern Protestant Christian, which means I'm the most suseptible to ridicule over the whole gay marriage thing.
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Post by Kingleby on Mar 16, 2004 17:36:21 GMT -5
people who think gays are under them are just stupid. i don;t really know any gay people but i do know an indian and she has to go through so much racist crap its unbelievable. to make it worst my own brother in law is in the bloody nazis! for **** sakes!
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Post by requiem on Mar 16, 2004 17:40:30 GMT -5
I don't think anyone can say that any one group of people is inferior to them. I don't discriminate against gays. The way I was brought up dictates that they're misguided but shouldn't be persectued or condemned. They're still people.
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Post by DarkAnima on Mar 17, 2004 5:15:13 GMT -5
If people want to be gay, let them. I have no problem with it... I do when they decide to walk up to you and tell you what they did in bed last night. There are a few homosexual people in my school I know, and it does bug me when they expect me to listen about the things they got up to. I'm sorry, but it just makes me feel sick.
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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 10:26:28 GMT -5
I, for one, know some gay people, and I cannot see what is wrong with letting them get married.
And what th ebible says (this is what one religios person had teh NERVE to say within my hearing) is that the purpose of marriage is 'to be fruitful and produce offspring. So what, does that mean someone who is infertile cannot get married? Old people aren't allowed to get married?
hurmp. The purpose of the US is allow people the right to live happily, having the right to prosper and obtain all they want. The only restriction is *IT CANNOT HARM ANYBODY* Homosexual Marriages do not harm ANYBODY!
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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 10:27:12 GMT -5
And yeah, hearing about anybody's sex life makes me queasy, weither the couple is homo or hetero.
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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 12:47:32 GMT -5
 Let's get back to Biblical standards of marriage. How much for your daughter? |
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Post by Kingleby on Mar 17, 2004 14:32:09 GMT -5
exactly! i think they should be allowed to get married. everyone deserves the chance if they want it. man i really hate it when people think they're better than others because of what they are! >:(man i get worked up about this stuff sorry. i was gonna write a story about gay rights once but then i realised my teacher probably wouldn't like it so  |
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Post by requiem on Mar 17, 2004 14:41:13 GMT -5
And what th ebible says (this is what one religios person had teh NERVE to say within my hearing) is that the purpose of marriage is 'to be fruitful and produce offspring. So what, does that mean someone who is infertile cannot get married? Old people aren't allowed to get married? What kind of freaky-ass religious nut told you that? Sure, that's one CHOICE given to you...but not to that extreme (damn mormons) The thing about gay MARRIAGE that bothers me is that it is rooted in a Christian belief. God holds marriage sacred. I could go on a whole different rant on intimacy and its sacred..ty..(word?) sanctity? not sure. But anyways, I was always taught, in secular and Christian circles, that homosexuality is abnormal. If God meant for men to take men as lovers and women to take women, then the plumbing would be different. (I'll leave it at that) I'm out of words. Later when I can grow a brain. |
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Post by Marty on Mar 17, 2004 14:41:30 GMT -5
Yeah! Exactly!
Stupid people trying to impress their beliefs onto minorities!
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Post by DarkAnima on Mar 17, 2004 15:37:12 GMT -5
Christians don't force marriage/hetrosexuality on you... why do you think there are gay priests?
I used to be a catholic.... the church isn't as bad as you think - honestly!
But the bible was written long ago, when men got money for their daughters. But we live in a civilised society where we marry because we love. The bible is a guideline, at any rate.
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